New Jersey political insiders declared their party’s candidate the winner of the second presidential debate Tuesday night. However, most believe President Barack Obama will be the consensus winner among national media outlets over Mitt Romney.
According to a Patch flash poll sent to elected officials and political party insiders, 24 out of 27 Democrats responding believed Obama was the victor, while 20 out of 24 Republicans declared Romney the winner.
“I think Romney had a better understanding and explanation of how to create jobs and grow the economy. He looked much more presidential,” one Republican said.
The results of Patch’s second presidential debate poll of New Jersey insiders contrast with those from last week’s head-to-head, in which 100 percent of Republicans surveyed and 41 percent of Democrats gave the victory to Romney.
In Patch’s first debate poll, 70 percent of all respondents believed Romney would be declared the “consensus winner” in that showing.
Approximately 82 percent of those surveyed, including 16 of 24 Republicans, believed Obama would be declared the “consensus winner” of the second debate by national media outlets.
“Obama was back,” one Democrat declared.
Many respondents made mention of moderator Candy Crowley in pointing to debate moments that would stand out among viewers.
In response to the question “What moment will stand out in the mind of conservatives in New Jersey?” one Republican said “Candy Crowley acting more like Obama's debate partner than a moderator.”
“It was disappointing to see Obama get away with his misrepresentation of the Benghazi attack,” that Republican said. “We know the administration—and Obama himself—repeatedly denied what common sense told us from the start: that it was a premeditated act of terror, not a spontaneous demonstration that spiraled out of control.
Democrats also highlighted the Benghazi attack exchange as a highlight of the evening, though from a decidedly different perspective.
When asked what moment of the debate would stand out to progressives and liberals in New Jersey, one Democratic respondent answered: “Obama's response on women's health issues and the Presidential response on the Benghazi attack issues by Romney which was misrepresented. Obama came out as a fighter and advocate for the middle class, veterans, senior citizens, working 47 percent that Romney called victims and not taking personal responsibility.”
That same Democrat criticized Romney’s tone during the debate: “Romney was rude to Candy Crowley and was flustered when he was challenged on his positions by the President.”
Patch Red and Blue Garden State surveys were sent to 190 Democrats and 145 Republicans. If you are an elected official or party leader and would like to be included in future surveys, contact Associate Regional Editor Jacklyn Corley at jacklyn.corley@patch.com or Regional Editor Mike Pignataro at mike@patch.com
"Stand for what's right, or settle for what's left" - FJL
9/12 - CLINTON - “We are working to determine the precise motivations and methods of those who carried out this assault. Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior, along with the protest that took place at our embassy in Cairo yesterday, as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. September 13 Press Secretary Jay Carney at a briefer in Golden, CO “I think it’s important to note with regards to that protest that there are protests taking place in different countries across the world that are responding to the movie that has circulated on the Internet.” “There is no justification at all for responding to this movie with violence.” September 14 Jay Carney at a White House Press briefing “We have no information to suggest that it was a preplanned attack. The unrest we’ve seen around the region has been in reaction to a video that Muslims, many Muslims find offensive. And while the violence is reprehensible and unjustified, it is not a reaction to the 9/11 anniversary that we know of, or to U.S. policy. … The unrest around the region has been in response to this video. We do not, at this moment, have information to suggest or to tell you that would indicate that any of this unrest was preplanned.” http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/10/19/detailed-timeline-quotes-what-did-the-obama-administration-say-about-the-libya-attack/
President Obama on The Late Show with David Letterman Obama: Well, here’s what happened. You had a video that was released by somebody who lives here, sort of a shadowy character who is– it’s an extremely offensive video directed at Mohammed and Islam. IT WAS ALL FROM A VIDEO...NO PREPLANNED ATTACKS. NO INTELL UNTIL THIS September 19 Matthew Olsen, Director of the National Counterterrorism Center “Certainly, on that particular question, I would say yes. They were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy.” September 20 President Obama during a Univision Forum – Miami, Florida “I don’t want to speak to something until we have all the information. What we do know is that the natural protests that arose because of the outrage over the video were used as an excuse by extremists to see if they can also directly harm U.S. interests.” Jay Carney during a press gaggle en route Miami “It is, I think, self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack. Our embassy was attacked violently, and the result was four deaths of American officials. So, again, that’s self-evident. OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH......on this day it's "SELF EVIDENT IT WAS A TERRORIST ATTACK" WHEN WILL OBAMA COME CLEAN??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7U4oA4G3Ai0 You're doing this to your children and Grandchildren all the while finding justification in your head why Obama is a great president.
20) “The kids of those that came here illegally, those kids, I think, should have a pathway to become a permanent resident of the United States and military service, for instance, is one way they would have that kind of pathway to become a permanent resident.” But Romney has promised to end President Obama’s deferred action directive, which saves some young undocumented immigrants from deportation, though he would not take away visas from people who had already received them. He has also promised to veto the DREAM Act.
22) “Any investments I have over the last eight years have been managed by a blind trust. And I understand they do include investments outside the United States, including in — in Chinese companies.” Romney’s blind trust is not very blind, and includes investments in a company owned by Romney’s son.
What is the Global Climate Change issue that you think needs to be addressed? And your comment on race is very offensive. Typically those people who accuse others of being racists are showing their own true colors (pardon the pun.)
i wasn't going to bring up rubin or cuomo.
TARP was only good for O's union buddies and to fill state budgets for one year. big deal. . SO CREATIVE he wants to do more
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/05/15/484767/obama-budget-chart/ http://www.philly.com/philly/health/Budget_office_Obamas_health_law_reduces_deficit.html
stupidity,laziness, arrogance, unqualified, has no color or religion
10:27 pm on Sunday, October 21, 2012 Yep, sure looks like its going down...... http://www.usdebtclock.org/ Debt since OBAMA took office is up $7 TRILLION I seem to recall he said it was unpatriotic and irresponsible to increase the debt on our children. What has he done? INCREASED THE DEBT ON OUR CHILDREN OBAMA - WHY DO YOU LIE SO MUCH? YOU HAVE FAILED US!!
Your now beginning to bore me with your obfuscations. . .stay on message and answer the questions! PS: your comments regarding TARP and the stimulus are a joke, and have no basis in fact. . . go read Christine Romers piece in NYT discussing the stimulus, even as flawed as it was... http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/21/business/how-the-fiscal-stimulus-helped-and-could-have-done-more.html?ref=business&_r=0
...and what was Phil Gramm and his dear wife's claim to fame down in the District of Corruption Max. . .maybe with all the Clinton crap you could luciate us on. . . PS: please don't bring up that scallywag's name. . .next you'll be using the other crook's...Bob Rubin and Andrew Como. Everybody on both sides of the aisle were on a roll promoting the new game in town, SIV's. . .which was really a repackaged creation from the days of Lew Ranieri, when he was at Solomon Brothers, and Larry Fink, the math wonder boy from California. ...so what argument have I loss?
Here is his record of failure thanks to OH NO OBAMA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS RECORD OF FAILURE I am often reminded of what Obama said at the 2008 DNC: “If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from. You make a big election about small things.” Every day, his campaign is making it smaller and smaller, and the President’s poll numbers keep dropping and dropping. 25 million unemployed $7 Trillion in new debt. $1 Trillion in WELFARE SPENDING 47 million on food stamps $1.5 Trillion budget deficits $500 Billion in UNPAID Medicare spending $500 Billion in UNPAID Social Security Tax cuts OBAMA LIES. AMERICANS DIE! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQBSTomBWls IT WAS YOUR JOB OBAMA. YOU FAILED. STOP BLAMING OTHERS. OBAMA - what HAPPENED TO THE DEBT??? YOU ADDED $7 TRILLION TO IT!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaQUU2ZL6D8&feature=endscreen&NR=1